Today I’m chatting with Elinor Predota, a storyteller, singer, Interfaith Minister and Priestess from southern Scotland, the coldest wettest place in Britain.

Elinor’s work with others involves the creation and telling of stories; one-to-one spiritual counselling, coaching and direction; retreats, classes and workshops; and the magic of ritual and ceremony.

All of what she does is rooted in a practice of deep presence and listening, creating a welcoming space in which all feelings, all perspectives, all identities, all experiences, all responses and reactions — whether expected or unexpected, pleasant or challenging — may find a home.

Enjoy our ramble through the fairytale The Golden Bird and Elinor’s relationship with her body and creativity.

Things we chatted about in this episode:

  • the fairytale The Golden Bird (French version of the Russian Firebird story)
  • how the story has all the classic adventure elements (adventure, a princess, talking animals) but also has some mysterious elements
  • on the spiritual lesson of removing a hill in 8 days
  • how it’s such a rich story that it takes 1.5 to 2 hours to tell properly
  • how the story relates to the three parts of the soul and the initiation process
  • how stories can find their way into your bones
  • how wondertales and fairytales are so richly deep and meaningful, so much more than just children’s stories
  • how fairytale logic is dreamlogic, and it helps us access a dreaming consciousness while being still awake
  • the bird, the horse and the person that the young man has to fetch in the story as being representative of the soul
  • surviving a housefire
  • living with fibromyalgia and chronic depression and how to put oneself back together
  • relationship with creativity
  • how her loss of creative enthusiasm  tells her depression is rising up
  • Elinor’s belief that it’s not depression that’s the source of the richness of the creativity, but that engaging creativity to overcome depression is the source of the richness of the creativity
  • creativity as a source of nourishment
  • multimedia work, embroidery with wildflowers, tactile body-based art-making
  • how being creative draws and connects the inner and outer life together, how it’s a very rich process
  • relationship with body
  • spending an early childhood above her body
  • not knowing how to be here in a body in a practical sense (managing time/money/schedules)
  • how becoming an Interfaith Minister led to more presence and capability in the material world
  • how having fibromyalgia complicates her relationship with her body but also offers lessons in surrendering and experience her present circumstances
  • how her body is the source of her most important spiritual lessons

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